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Well, she's done it again hasn't she? Pure brilliance on every page. What more can I say? All the rumors that went around made us more eager to flick through those pages as fast as possible and discover the identity of the Half Blood Prince.
All the secrets and riddles (geddit?) are revealed in the final pages as usual. I thought it was a very different kind of HP book, maybe because there is less humour and more adventure. The kids are growing, realising the purpose of their lives. JK cannot get the feelings and anger of Harry if Ron is going to interrupt every second with a little humour, can she? She has to make the readers realise the seriousness of life, as Harry realises it. You could definitely say it's a little darker than the others.
Everyone wants to know who dies. It's Dumbledore. Yes, you heard right, Dumbledore. And what surprised me was he was begging. Begging Snape. I am still torn on weather he was begging Snape to kill him, or not to kill him. All we hear Dumbledore say is 'Please Snape' I think both Jon and Misha have valid points, check them out. Personally, I think Snape is on the good side. The Unbreakable Vow holds him back from revealing himself to the Malfoys.
Also the part which made me distressed was when Ginny and Harry break up. It was clear from when we are first introduced to Ginny they were meant to be. And Harry being the noble one, being the hero of the story, has to let her go. But they'll be back - I have a feeling. I think the end of the series will end by revealing that Harry kills Voldemort, is seriously injured and then dies after a sorrowing and heartbreaking speech like Mel Gibson in Braveheart.
As someone suggested to me read the beginning and read the end, you'll get the gist in no time. No, it doesn't work like that. You'll have to read it all, not missing a sentence. And when you've finished reading that you just want to read the last of the HP books. Guess we'll have to wait two more years.
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Haven't read the book yet but everyone has been raving about it soo much.. now I HAVE to go get it.. or borrow it.. or steal it.. or SOMETHING.
I also hated the idea of Dumbledore begging.. it tore me apart to really think Dumbledore, my favorite person in the books, would beg... But you have a point.. maybe he was begging for Snape to kill him.. maybe to save Malfoy's life. Great man, Dumbledore.
I don't think Dumbledore is completely dead. I like Jon said most the victum's that died in the books by the Avada Kedrava curse eyes was open. So he was a sleep as he looked and just waiting for the Potion to bring him back. But I think it's Fawks that is going to bring his master back. J.k.Rowelling said Harry thought Fawks was gone forever. I don't think so, where he as gone won't come clear intell Book 7. Also Harry him self said DD will never be gone as long those are faithful to him
You got a point there, Zack. The reminds me.. I still think Snuffles is still alive.. Harry never actually saw his dead body. I dont really think Dumbledore is coming back.. it was his time to go. He was getting weaker and older everytime Harry would see him for his classes.
you all got points there... but are we forgetting DD's funeral, Zack? And as for Snufffles, I think he's gone - That was the death that fooled me too.
I know about the funeral,I'm saying is that most victums of the killing curse have the eyes open,and leave no sign of cause of death. DD had his eyes closed and have blood comeing out of his mouth. Its just looks fishey the way snape killed him. the killing curse just kills you and leave you where you stud. not pick you up glide you out of the room and let you drop.I think snape was hiding something from the other deatheaters that he and DD knew.so think DD is in someway still going to help harry even if he doesn't have a body.
Dumbledore is not coming back! Neither is snuffles..Im sorry to say but I don't think the 7th book will have a happy ending. I mean look at it. Harry hasnt even completed his 7th year of school and we are suppose to believe that he can destroy all the horcruxes and defeat voldemort. 1 of 2 things will happen..A) Harry will die plain and simple. Plz dont let that happen JK or B) Peter Pettigrew and Harry's ability to love will be the only thing that saves him not his wizarding brilliance
yes, but thats true. in the prophecy it does say that harry's ability to love will be the only difference between his and volde's power. but i agree with you, it will be a crap ending.
personally i think dumbledore is dead first of all if snape didn't do the curse right DD wouldve not been dropped and ithink he was begging for his life to be ended because he was the kind of chat that would do that second on the point his portrait was in McGonagalls new office (his old) and when i found out snape was the H.B.P i felt like throwing my book just because harry was trusting somebody he hated als on the point that sirius is not dead i had that idea in my head untill this book came out DD gave harry the will surely DD wouldve known if he was alive or not
i think that this new book was briliant but altogether very sad because there were more deaths in it than the other books.the death of dumbledore was very... sad but i think that in the 7th book maybe harry will grow up to be as powerful as dumbledore and succed to finish of voldemort.maybe in the next book the members of the order will be able to finish of greasy haired snape.
i've only just finished reading it and i must say i'm a little disappointed - by DD dying and Harry ang Ginny braking up. The whole book is a lot more serious and it's shorter than the 5th and 4th one. still of course i liked it. i think Rowling is trying to avoid routine in her books - u know making it all surprising and original so that its not just another adventure book but i think she better not overdo it cause if she'll for example kill too many people or end the last book very seriously/sadly etc. a lot of readers will be a bit disapointed - after all who would'nt prefer a happy ending for Harry?
That was an absolute breathtaking effort Rowling has done in her 6th masterpiece of HP series.I read all the views above and bound to believe that HP following has just increased with time,now something about the book:I personally think that DD has died,the blood can just be because of his collapse from the tower and Sirius well I cant say but I think he has passed away too,now for the 7th part,it will be sheer luck that would enable harry to reach his destiny
What about Dunbledors portrait in his old office? Can't he still talk through that? And why did Dumbledor die so shamley begging? Whether he was begging for life or for his death, is neather here nor there, he was still BEGGING. And if I was Harry, I'd go back to school and talk to Dumbledors portrait to find out what that was all about. And the Harry Ginny thing, They will ofcoarse, be love-trodden again. And I certainley hope that Harry doesn't die in vain, in fact, I hope he kills Snape and Voldermort-Tom Riddle...whoever! Snape betraded Hogwarts, Voldemort sucks plain air, so I think they shouldn't just die, but suffer painfully before doing so, that should teach 'em! (and ofcoarse we an't forget the Ron/Hermione thing, can we?)
I am actually most curiouse to see whether hogwarts re-opens! It would leave the entire community of young wizards without the education that they need to function in the wizarding world! I see Hermy and Ron finally getting together. Im guessing that we will see Bill Weasley play a bigger part in the 7th book! What will be the effects of his bite? And will it work to the Orders advantage? As for Snape, i believe he is still devoted to his dark lord. Didnt we even hear Harry recognize that Snape reffers to him as the Dark Lord, rather than He-who-must-not-be-named? I believe DD really was pleading for an explantion. An act of confusion maybe. Im thinking Harry will kill voldemort, but Snape will replace him as the new Villan...
That is a bit of a crap ending, innit? Having Snape become the new Dark Lord, that would suck dry!!
who knows wat goes through JK's head? i think for her satisfaction, she will kill of harry. Thats wat i would do.
I think that Regulus Black(RAB), Sirius' suposedley dead brother will play a huge part in book 7. I believe that Regulus alone will be able to help Harry in finding the horcrux's and ultimately distroying you-know-who. They will also need some help from Mundungus Fletcher in locating items that he had stolen from #12 Grimmauld Place, because at least one of them may be a horcrux
Im with chelsea, once they said his portrait was on the wall i figured he could talk to him. And i fully believe DD's dead, the whole paralise curce uplifting (is it safe to assume he jinxed harry to keep him from doing anything stupid?). as for snape, i would like to think hes still good, seems like a twist JK would add, but the whole hurting harry on the lawn thing makes me wonder. But if harry couldnt find that arc in the stone wall and boat chain... the light looks dim towards finding the other 3 hor'xs. And in the end, i predict harry will kill vol, and he will end up with ginny. i think itl be a slightly happy ending, i dont think JK will mike everyone depressed with a sad ending after this... nearly 10 year series.
i think dd was not begging to be forgiven but to be killed as he said in the 1st part that death is itself an adventure and snape is innocent!!
well, for me i think hogwarts will be closed for how could harry manage to find all the other horcruxes if he's in hogwarts? and as for dumbledore's death, i think it's final. the mentor has to leave the protege in the end (or, in this case, nearly end), that's the way it is.
i think that harry ron and hermione r not gonna finish their last school year and find the horcruxes kill voldemort. but one of them is gonna die doing it.
Dumbledore is dead, Harry,Ron and Hermonione will finish howarts because the final battle will be at Hogwarts. However just like harry's mom died to protect him, Dumbledore death did the same thing to protect the school and to protect harry. I also believe that one of the horcruxes is the sword of griffindor one of the reasons that voldermort went back to hogworts. what safer place than under the nose of the headmaster.sirius is not dead and he will be the one to kill snape only to realize that he was protecting malfoy from doing something stupid and that he is in fact still working for the order of the phoenix and never forgave himself for the deaths of harry parents especially lily someone who was nice to him at hogworts. and it will be a combination of both harry, neville and malfoy to destory voldermort. and in the end malfoy becomes harry's bestfriend. hermonione and ron get married and neville and luna, and ginny and harry will be girlfriend and boyfriend and one of the wessly brothers becomes minister of magic.
about the gryffindor being a horcrux i think it's a good idea but that have been impossible to do because he wasnt at the pinnacle of his evil which means he wasnt his strongest so dumbledore wouldve found out and easily have killed L.V. harry and ginny are not going to end up together ron and hermy might rufus scrimegour is not going to make life easy on harry and arthur weasly is going to die at the hand of lucius malfoy
I agree with almost everything that terry said except for the sword of gryffindor being a horcrux. i dont believe it possible that it could be one because for one thing a horcrux can only be created when someone has been murdered and secondly, you cant forget that harry already destroyed one of the horcruxes with that sword (Tom Riddle's enchanted diary). I also don't think that the sword could be a horcrux and sit under dumbledores nose, it just doesnt seem right.
Another thing that you must remember is that a murder must be committed for a horcrux to be created. The Dark Lord never had the sword of gryffindor to bestow a horcrux in when he murdered someone (or so we think) making it nearly impossible for the sword to be a horcrux.
I think all J.K.Rowling cares about is the money.The movies has brought all the characters to life and then she kills Dumbledore!?!Whats next?Will Harry die?Come on Rowling!Start caring about the people who reads your books...not the money!!
I am wondering when the horcrux's were made because there was moaning mertal who died at HW while Riddle was there. It also seams to me that DD was asking snape to kill him, Snape was under DD's trust and i decided halfway through the book that that was enough for me. also it seams that when DD says or does something like that (pleading) or whatever the instance will be, that it is something that only he and the other person knows about, he has done it before. At this point it matters how much you trust DD's judgement.
I trust it. Theres gotta be somthing else to it. But honestly, i cant see dd being incorrect about sothing that big, even through him constantly saying 'the greating the mind, the bigger and more conciquencial the mistakes'
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I think the 6th book answered a lot of questions from the previous 5 but also left us with a lot of questions to be answered in the 7th. Dumbledore had to "die" so that Harry can reach is full potential, once Voldemort and his followers have been destroyed, DD will come back as I don't really think he died.
I believe most of what bryson has been saying but I do think that dumbledore is still alive or maybe made a horcrux of his own when he killed the dark wizard Grindelwald in 1945 (mentioned in the first book on the back of a chocolate frog card) and made Fawkes the horcrux just a theory though and i dont think sirius will come back but then again we might hear from him who knows.
Logan has a good theory but i dont think it possible for dumbledore to have created a horcrux of his own because we have no indication of any kind of dark magic in dumbledore. You must remember that horcurxes are one of the most powerfully dark peices of magic that there are.
... Something else has just come to my attention. If Regulus Black was indeed the one who found the locket he would most certainly had to have had an accomplice and who else would accompany him but Kreacher, Harry's own house elf. In that case the locket mentioned in Book 5 at #12 Grimmauld place could have easily been the horcrux that Regulus and Kreacher found. We also know that Kreacher collected things of his masters making this entirely possible.
Wow lol and i thought i had it all thought out so what are your views on sirius
Do you think regulus black is still alive or found the horcrux before he died or found more than one horcrux?
Sirius and Dumbledore are dead; give it rest! Bryson has to be totally correct about Regulus, Kreacher wouldn't take Harry as his new master if Regulus was still alive. Therefore R.A.B couldn't be Regulus... could it? Even Phineas Nigellus says when Sirius dies, "Am I to understand, that my g-g-grandson- THE LAST OF THE BLACKS- is dead?" I dont wanna believe that Sirius is dead, because he was my favorite character, but I dont see any other way around his death. But of course this is J.K ROWLING we're talking about, she's capable of anything... As for Dumbledore, his character would play no further value into the story, his time was obviously up.
Regulus Black could have found the horcrux or horcruxes before he died.
True, Regulus could have found a horcrux before he died, and that would definately explain when, R.A.B says that he/she would be dead by the time that Voldemort would have read it. Very true. Sorry, I got caught up in the actions of Sirius and Dumbledore's deaths...
Lol its cool i think this is so cool talking to people about this and elaborating on each others ideas sounds kinda nerdy but o well
Dumbledore is almost certainly dead because a portrait only appears in the headmasters office when that headmaster has died. As for Sirius I don't know that he is dead as much as he is lost. We were never told exactly what was behind the curtain he fell behind. He could just be stuck in a place that he doesn't know how to get out of.
It is kinda nerdy but, I love the Harry Potter books, and its always fun to talk about things that you love... I cried so much in The Half-Blood Prince, it won't be the same without Dumbledore in the books...
For Regulus I am dumbfounded on whether he is dead or alive. We were told by Sirius in book 5 that he had joined the death eaters and found that what he was doing was wrong and tried to back out. Sirius tells us that he was killed on Voldemorts orders. I would assume that he is dead but we all know what assume means.
Who knows? Assuming will get us no where... Sirius does tell Harry that Regulus did back out, and was killed on Voldemorts orders. He could have found out about the Horcruxes, and destroyed the locket; but do you think he could have found out about the horcruxes before Dumbledore? Oh, wait, did Dumbledore say how long he's known about the horcruxes?
Not necciserly(spell check) are we certain a portrait apprears when a headmaster is dead or just when he quits or resigns(is a headmaster the headmaster or mistress until he/she dies or can they quit just a thought) and if they do appear when they die maybe dumbledore is living through fawkes or something very unlikely but i still think dumbledore is alive. And i agree with you that sirius could just be lost but i think members of the order know something about that veil cause they right away said he was dead. And for rachel i think thts very believable that he found out about the horcrux and somehow found the locket and destroyed it without lv knowing and was then killed.
Check Page 116 of The Order of Phoenix and you'll find something very interesting. "a heavy gold locket that none of them could open"
Omg bryson, I would never would have seen that! Do you think it could be Voldemort's Horcrux!? Maybe Regulus DID take the locket but never got to destroy it! That's really freaky! Did you find that on your own? The whole Regulus thing really might be true...
I came across that when i was rereading the 5th book to find out who RAB was.
That's really interesting... I never would have suspected Regulus. What d'you guys think about Godric's Hollow, where Harry's parents used to live? Do you think there might be a horcrux in the rubble of Harry's old house? Voldemort left the ring in the ruins of his uncles house...
This is a far out theory, but what if harry's scar itself is a horcrux. This would mean that harry would have to sacrifice his own life in the end to do away with voldemort. And he would have to do these things simultaneously.
Ya ever since i found out about horcruxes ive had my suspicions about harry being a horcrux i hope he isnt cause that would make a horrible ending.
First off, I think that the RAB is Regulas. Who else have we read about that has those initials? It does seem to fit that it could be Regulus that found out about the horcruxes and tried to destroy them before he died. Sirius did say that his brother got in too deep and then tried to back out of the Deatheaters once he found out all that they were up to.
Second, I don't really see that Dumbledore was pleeding so much as just asking Severus to kill him. He never said "Please Don't Kill Me". He just asked Snape "Please". Remember how Hagrid said in passing that he had overheard Snape and Dumbledore talking near the forest and that Snape had told Dumbledore that "you ask too much me!" I think it was then that Dumbledore asked Snape to kill him, for a number of reasons. One being that he was dying anyway (he was getting old and slower, and his hand was really messed up, maybe slowly killing him itself). Reason two being that he knew that Malfoy was trying to kill him on the request of Voldemort and he wanted to save Draco from having to kill. He kept telling Malfoy that he could come back to the good side and that they would hide him to keep him safe. Dumbledore was a very caring person and liked to believe the best in people. He didn't want Malfoy to become a killer on his part. And reason three, he wanted Snape to keep with the Unbreakable promise so that he would not die for breaking it, and so that Voldemort would still belive that Snape was a Deatheater. He knew that once Snape killed him he was capable of getting himself out of there alive before anyone could kill him for killing Dumbledore. Snape now has some big job to do on Dumbledore's last wishes. ---Dumbledore knew that he was going to be killed on top of the tower and that is why he jinxed Harry...so that Harry could not move and do anything stupid to get himself hurt.
And as for Book 7, I think that Peter Petigrew will play a bigger part. Dumbledore said that when you spare a wizards life as Harry did in Book 3 by telling Serius and Lupin not to kill Wormtail, they in turn owe you the same gesture. I think it will be Wormtail in Book 7 that helps Harry defeat Voldemort.
As you can tell, I think that both Serius and Dumbledore are gone, and that Snape is still honestly working for the good side. Yes, he may dislike Harry because of his father James, but he dislikes Voldemort more.
This is fun... to be able to write about what you think and get ideas from what others think. Thank you-
I've actually been thinking about Harry's scar being a horcrux. I would be a terrible ending, but it kind of makes sense... If Voldemort can make a horcrux (supposedly) of Nagaini(sp?) his snake, why not Harry? Remember when one of the Death Eaters was toturing Harry in the end of the 6th book? Snape clearly says, "No! Potter belongs to the Dark Lord!" If Harry was a horcrux than obviously if Snape was loyal to his master, he would not want another horcrux destroyed... Uh-oh, I don't want Harry to be a horcrux! Some one please find a problem with what I'm saying...!
Well ya harry being a horcrux is possible but the whole reason voldemort was there at his house was to kill Harry he didnt think he survived right? so i highly doubt he is a horcrux
Voldemort wasnt planning on harry surviving so i dont think he was planning on turning him into a horcrux unless it can be done with a blink of an eye like done real quick untill we know the whole process we might not know.
It could make sense that Harry could be a horcrux. It could be that his scar is the mark of a horcrux and not the mark of surviving a killing curse. If Voldemort did make Harry a horcrux, then it would ensure that Harry could not kill Voldemort without killing himself to do it, and Voldemort is probably banking on the fact that he doesn't think that Harry would kill himself. A good theory, but let's hope it is not true.
Another person that could possibly be RAB is one of the two people that Tom Riddle took into Godrics Hollow when he was at the orphanage. Her name was stated on page 268 of The Half Blood Prince. Her name is Amy Benson, so she only has the AB of RAB but she would most certainly know how to get to the cave, but I doubt that it would be her because she probably knew nothing about horcruxes or for that matter magic.
disregaurd the part about Godrics Hollow in my last comment, i meant the cave. I have no idea why i put that.
Bryson what do you think about Harry being a horcrux
I mean voldemort didnt even know that his powers would be transfered and his spell would back fire so how would he know to make harry a horcrux
Logan, I think that Voldemort made the Horcruxes before anything ever happened to Harry. He couldn't have made them after he did something to Harry because he became almost lifeless. Maybe that is why he became almost dead...he had finally split his body apart too much (7 times), when he made Harry a Horcrux. Dumbledore did say that splitting it 7 times is the most you could do, and no-one had ever done it before. Maybe what happened to Voldemort is what happens to you after you split 7 times. Who knows....
I think that Harry being a horcrux is entirely possible but not likely. I say this becuse after Harry saw Voldemorts rebirth they dueled and Voldemort fired the Avada Kedavra curse at Harry. I am sceptical because of this fact because Voldemort wouldnt try to destroy one of his own horcruxes.
Bryson- You make a very valid point. I think that settled my thoughts on Harry being a horcrux.
Ya same here.
SO what do you guys think all of the horcruxes are, hufflepuff's(spellcheck) cup?
I have no idea about the horcuxes. I will have to think on it for a while. I think that Nagini being one could be a good possibility, but then again, that could be all too obvious, and not right at all.
I think nagaini is one cause dumbledore said she was but if anyone has any ideas i would like to know.
DD said that it took 2 to get to the cave maybe Harry parents found oue about the horcruxes so Harry could be one I think it has something to do with everybody saying Harry looks like his father but has eyes like his mother he could have became one because his father did get killed first
I don't think that Harry is a Horcrux. Like Bryson said, Voldemort cast the Avada Kedavra spell to try and kill him at the end of book 4, and if Harry was one, he wouldn't want Harry dead would he? Also, in book 2, Tom Riddle (voldemort) was trying to kill Harry in the Chamber of Secrets...there again, I don't think that he would want Harry dead if he was a Horcrux. I still can't figure out what the other ones might be, but I do think that they are NOT going to be easy to figure out. Some might not even be mentioned until Book 7, so we will have no way of knowing what they are until that book comes out.
Ya i agree with that
Im agreeing with Megan but not lena i dont think tht has to do with anything no offence
(phew) Thanks for talking me out of that Megan... It's kinda funny what we're doing, isn't it? I mean, I'm sure I never would've thought of any of this without this board...
Does anyone have any idea of who it was the got into the cave. Who do you think RAB is? I personally think that RAB is Regulus Black...but Dumbledore did say that it takes two. Who do you think could have helped him with it, and why didn't they sign the note to Voldemort too?
You may want to read some of the comments from yesterday Megan, because my theory is already there.
Comment #32 to be exact.
Yes Bryson I did read that already...thank you. I was wondering if others had ideas too so that maybe we could all elaborate on those other ideas. It is possible that it could have been somebody other than Kreatcher.
Maybe Regulus's mother went with him i mean they had a good relationship compared to sirius's but its probably unlikely because sirius said his parents didnt neccesarily support voldemort but agreed with him so i think Bryson is right in thinking Kreacher helped regulus and this is a very out there theory but maybe in the 7th book harry goes back in time to find out where all of the horcruxes are and then finds out Regulus needs help getting the locket and helps him very far out there theory and unlikely but who knows.
Its a very far out theory Logan, but like I've said before; who knows? Jk Rowling is the author and with her anything is possible...
I like the way your mind works Logan...that is something that I would have never thought of. It is possible, but like you said, unlikely. It is neat to think about though...he did go back with the time turner to save himself and Sirius and didn't know it, so it could be possible. So far the Kreatcher theory is the most plausable, but you never know. The author has an amazing mind.
wow so fantastic i really like how harry was now,from a first year to fourth wow
they already matured alot
harry really rockz
I loved every thing about the book.
The only problem I had was that Ginny and Harry broke up I felt so sad and a little ticked off that Harry had to be so nobal I read that book late in to the night just to see if they would get to gether. My body was running over joy when Ginny dumped Dean and then I was almost in tears when Harry kissed Ginny in front of all those people. And as if things could not be better Romilda Vane (3rd year with a crush on Harry) and Dean were so angery. It was beautiful. And then Harry breaks up with Ginny. I realy hope they get back together in the next book. And Ron and Hermionie should stop kidding themselves and get together.
I think this was the ultimate and shocking book JK Rowling ever wrote. It was such a shocker to find out Dumbledore has died!
What I want to now is did Tonks really have fealings for sirius?
I wish that yous would come off the idea that DD and Sirius are still alive. They couldnt have used a Horcruxes that is a very very dark art
No, I don't think that Tonks had feeling for Sirius. She was upset because she liked Lupin and he kept telling her that they couldn't be together because he was a werewolf.
Yeah, Tonks couldn't have loved Sirius because she loves Lupin! I was so happy about that!!!
hey guys, found an interesting website: www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com ...what do you think??
Ya ive been to it its pretty good its got some good points.
I think this book was the best book out of all of them. I don't think Harry will return to Hogwarts. I think he will go and kill Voldemort. Dumbledore isn't completely dead I don't think I think he will return to life. He is of course the Greatest wizard that ever lived. And the only one Voldemort ever feared.
I think in the 7th book that Harry will love voldemort and it will end up killing voldemort. Because that is the only power harry has that voldemort doesn't have.
LOVE VOLDEMORT?!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who is R A B? He was the one who found the horcrux and put a new one. Have any idea who it is?
Look up at around comment 50
I think that Sirius and maybe Dumbledore are still alive because of the Order of the Pheonix. Towards the end, Luna Lovegood told Harry, "It's not like I'll never see her again." Harry replied, "It's not?" Luna sounded disapoited, "You heard them. They were just lurking out of sight."
Thats a good point but somehow i think unlikely because the members of the Order told Harry right then ans there that Sirius was dead and I think they know something about that veil but then again just like everthing else we talk about is guess work so I could be wrong but I just wanted to give my 2 cents.
I finished reading the harry potter book just last night...It really angered me to have dumbledore die and so I started thinking maybe he could come back through like a horcrux but that I soon relized would most likley be impossible.
Then when harry potter and Ginny Weasley split up, even though it was for good intention sort of came as a suprise I'm not sure why it was plainly laid out but still I guess I didn't want it to happen...O well
Then last when Dumbledore was dying and snape killed him I imediatly thought snape was truely on the other side and that was the point when he decided this. When dumbledore asked softly for his life, (I do think he was asking) I think that he wanted to see wether he could trust snape or not in some kind of way...maybe to show harry? I'm not sure, but I do think dumbledore ment to die because I think he knew that the locket had already been taken and he knew what the drink might do. but its just a guess of course...Anyway though the reason for him wanting to die I believe was so that harry could face he-who-must-not-be-named alone and that dumbledore believed that harry was indeed ready so he let him go.
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I think that you guys have come up with some excellent theory's as to what will and wont happen in the seventh book. This is a really neat comment board and I think some of you may be on the right track.
I wonder what happens when we hit 100 comments.
Great site.
To me there are 3 questions that will be, and need to be, answered in the last book:
1. DD asked the Dursleys to allow Harry back to their home. Could there be something more significant there? Like a Horecrux?
2. How did Sirius die? Luna heard voices from behind the curtain and I think she will play a major role in the last book - as will Neville.
3. Is RAB Sirius' brother? I don't think so. Harry, Ron and Hermione would have figured it out right away. Look for it to be someone who is still alive and assists Harry with his quest.
If DD is still alive, and that is a big IF, he won't come back until Harry is sucessful (assuming he is).
As for Harry be the last horecrux and dying in the last book, I hopr not. As someone who dabbles in short stories, for JK Rowling - Harry is her baby. Lets hope she doesn't send him off that way.
Exellent points Dozer... Hey Boba, thanx for mentioning www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com, its an awsome site... My cousin and I had lots of arguments about it, and we both came up with some great ideas, thank you!!!
i think the reason DD had to die is because harry had to do the last leg of "the journey" alone instead of relying on others to save him. The 7th book will see harry grow into the powerful wizard from the prophacy.
AS FOR R.A.B it could be a character we dont know of yet at all or that has significant relations to others of the known characters?
its all very confusing and will be extreamly exciting when the 7th book come out. although i hope its not a depressing as the end of the 6th and lets us leave the hp books in pleasant memorys.
I can not belive that ???? killed ??? That is so odd!~
I think that the horcruxes are as follows; the ring, the locket, the cup, nagini, the diary, and the bloody axe that harry noticed in the room of requirement. J. K. takes detail in writing about the axe(why else would she have done this if not to hint to the final horcrux). This axe could have easily been one of Ravenclaws and Voldermort could have easily stowed it away when he came to visit dumbledore to apply for the teaching position. Harry will also be led back to the room of requirement because this is where he stashed his potoins book.
As for harry bieng a horcrux, it is impossible because harry would then hold part of voldermorts soul. In the goblet of fire it became clear that voldermort could not posess harry because harry could love.
About Dubbledore making a horcrux I think he did. He already did a act of evil by killing Dark wizard Grindelwald. As for having the ability to it he is the most powerful wizard in the world thats why voldemort feared him. another theory about him pleading is because he did not want to live the half life to he new he would live. Question? throughout the book Dumbledore was showing memorys of other people of voldemorts pass. When Dumbledore showed harry about when he told tom riddel about him being a wizard DD took his wand to the tip of his head and withdrew that memory. But the chapter of Voldemorts request he had that memory in the glass file like all the other memorys."Why" that memory is not as important as the prophecy is it no. Leads me to think after that he wasn't Albus Dumbledore he was a Dubbledore but not the same Dumbledore that showed Harry the meeting of him telling tom he was a wizard.
As for R.A.B I think there was three people invovled its like Dumbledore said you needed more than one to get to that horcrux. And honestley do you think that Regulus Black is a more powerful wizard then Dumbledore is. I do believe that one of those guys as the locket is going to help harry find the others. Lets face it harry is not ready to find the horcrux on his own, back at the cave with Dubbledore he had no clue what was going on. Dubbledore had him come along first he promise second he need him to force feed DD the potion.
Very true Kim... Harry can't be a horcrux! (:))
In the fourth book how did Fred and George know how the Quidditch world cup was going to end?
Fred and George are Fred and George... do they need a reason?
Yes even they arn't tht good
i think Fred and George are one of the few characters who know more than we think they know.
This whole infery (corpses comming back) was introduced but not reli elaborated on, in that JK didnt use it much. Do you think voldimort might 'inferate' Lilly and James? Il admit it wouldnt be pritty, but it certainly would throw Harry off. and on Pg 57 of Half-blood, dumbledore accuses the dursleys of treating dudley badly, what did he mean? and rember the glass cube serius gave harry in book 5, will somthing happen there? i know it shattered, but i cant help but wonder....
Read www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com one of the articals talks about book one and all the things snape questions harry on in the first lesson... they are all used in the books. except "drought of living death" the potion which puts you into a deep sleep as if youre dead.. PG 568 "but for the strange angle of his arms and legs,he might have been sleeping"
ok as far as im concerned this is how it goes...dumbledore is not dead there are to many clues to show hes not also Snape is good once again to many clues to prove he is. and harry is a horcrux hence the "neither can live while the other survives and also check this out http://www.harryisahorcrux.com/ i figured it out and thought i would try my luck and voila!!!! if anyone wants to argue with me Bring It ON!!!!
Ok Allie. I'll argue with you. OBVIOUSLY something was going on with Snape and Dumbledore. Snape made the Unbreakable Vow with Narcissa Malfoy but was still working with the Order. Hagrid, at one point in the HBP, says that he overheard Snape and Dumbledore arguing. Snape says that he doesn't want to do something anymore, but Dumbledore insists that he does.
I think that Dumbledore told Snape that if he had to choose between Draco's life and Dumbledore's life, he gave Snape the order to spare Draco's.
Dumbledore tells Draco in the Astronomy Tower that he suspected him all along. Because Dumbledore IS Dumbledore, he would rather save two other lives than his own.
So, I believe Dumbledore is in fact dead. It was apparent that his reign was over before the HBP even came out, because in order for Harry to progress as a person, he had to have the parent-like people taken away from him; before he faced Voldemort for the final time.
As for Harry being a Horcrux, it IS possible, and it would make a fantastic ending, but Voldemort wanted to KILL Harry. But suppose he DID make Harry a Horcrux: he wouldn't WANT to kill Harry because he would also be disposing his own soul. He heard of Professor Trelawney's prophecy and had to find and destroy the baby before he grew up and brought his downfall. So... what's up with that?